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Slackware Plasma5 updates for November

I have uploaded my November ’17 set of Plasma 5 packages for Slackware 14.2 and -current. KDE 5_17.11 contains: KDE Frameworks 5.40.0, Plasma 5.11.3 and Applications 17.08.3. All based on Qt 5.9.2 for Slackware-current and Qt 5.7.1 for Slackware 14.2.
For Slackware -current there’s again a choice of ‘latest‘ and ‘testing‘ where the ‘testing’ repository contains 17 recompiled packages that provide a Wayland compositor stack. This means you have a working Plasma5 Wayland session if you use ‘testing‘ as opposed to ‘latest‘.
The ‘testing‘ repository is for… testing. Do not use those packages on a production environment unless you are familiar with Slackware, debugging graphical sessions and know your way around slackpkg/slackpkg+.
NOTE: I will no longer be releasing Plasma 5 packages for 32bit Slackware 14.2.

The Applications 17.08.3 release which is part of this November package set, will be the last that contains software based on the old kdelibs (aka KDE4). Any application which has not been ported to KDE Frameworks 5 (KF5) yet will be removed from the Applications collection. Starting with Applications 17.12.0 we should have a legacy-free Plasma5 desktop. If anything, this would be a nice moment to add Plasma5 to Slackware-current and say goodbye to KDE4. We’ll have to wait and see what Patrick thinks of this. Looking at recent updates in -current (the ‘etc‘ ‘network-scripts‘ and ‘pkgtools‘ package versions were changed from “14.2” to “15.0”) I would hazard a guess that we are past the mid-point of the current development cycle 😉
I am really looking forward to getting Plasma5 into Slackware proper. It will allow me to cut loose from the monthly time-consuming update cycles and concentrate on creating an add-on repository for Slackware’s Plasma5 – containing speech synthesis, Wayland of course, and all the esoteric stuff I added to Plasma5 over time which will be scrapped by Patrick (I am thinking of Digikam for instance).

What’s new in the November release

Nothing world-shaking this month. All KDE sofware updates are meant to improve stability and usability. I did add two packages to ‘kde/applications-extra‘ however: both kaudiocreator and kwebkitpart have KF5 ports that are about ready for production, so I thought it would be good to give them a spin on Slackware. Now there are only two packages left from Slackware’s old KDE4 that you may want to install: Amarok (for which a KF5 port is also in the works) and KPlayer (which seems dead in the water, but instead you can try QMLPlayer from the ‘qtav‘ package in my ‘ktown‘ repository).
I also updated PyQt5 in the ‘deps ‘ directory and it has picked up Python3 support (in the slackware-current package at least).

Installing or upgrading Frameworks 5, Plasma 5 and Applications

As always, the accompanying README file contains full installation & upgrade instructions. I have some further reading material in case you are interested in the Wayland functionality of the ‘testing’ repository: README.testing.

Recommended reading material

There have been several posts now about KDE 5 for Slackware-current. All of them contain useful information, tips and gotchas. If you want to read them, here they are: http://alien.slackbook.org/blog/tag/kde5/

Where to get the new packages for Plasma 5

Package download locations are listed below (you will find the sources in ./source/latest/ and packages in /current/latest/ ,  /14.2/latest/ and /current/testing/ subdirectories). Only “bear” has the packages for now, the mirrors should follow within 24 hours. If you are interested in the development of KDE 5 for Slackware, you can peek at my git repository too.

Live ISO of PLASMA5

A new Plasma5 Live ISO image will be uploaded to http://bear.alienbase.nl/mirrors/slackware-live/latest/ later this week, in case you want to try the new Plasma5 desktop out first in a non-destructive way.

Have fun! Eric

Comments

Comment from Radical Dreamer
Posted: November 21, 2017 at 02:34

Thanks Eric! Plasma 5 & multilib updates are running great.

Comment from Gérard Monpontet
Posted: November 21, 2017 at 08:19

Work fine here, also 😉

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Comment from Phil
Posted: November 21, 2017 at 13:09

Another seamless upgrade. Thanks a lot.

Comment from Gérard Monpontet
Posted: November 21, 2017 at 13:58

In dep maybe it’s a good idea, to update json-glib, to 1.4.2 version because it’s the version used by gnome-3.6.2 😉

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Comment from Gérard Monpontet
Posted: November 21, 2017 at 20:54

kjot need rebuild, look here,Eric 😉

https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=5783535#post5783535

Comment from Radical Dreamer
Posted: November 21, 2017 at 21:40

I reported a minor bug regarding Team Fortress 2/ioquake3, NVIDIA binary, and the KDE compositor: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=387191

Comment from alienbob
Posted: November 21, 2017 at 22:10

Gérard, a recompiled kjots package has already been uploaded to my repository.

Comment from alienbob
Posted: November 21, 2017 at 22:11

Radical Dreamer perhaps you can play around with some of the KWin environment variables to see if you can tweak the compositor into sanity: https://community.kde.org/KWin/Environment_Variables

Also see https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/KDE#Graphical_related_problems for ideas.

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Comment from Mikei
Posted: November 21, 2017 at 23:34

Thanks for this, it’s working great.

Comment from Alex
Posted: November 22, 2017 at 00:21

Thanks for rebuilding Kjots so quickly in response to Gerard’s comment! I use this program a lot for so many things, and I am glad that it’s working again, from within Kontact and standalone. Thanks a lot!
And BTW: This was the only issue I ran into so far with your Plasma5 November updates. Great job!

Comment from LOEdiver
Posted: November 22, 2017 at 10:18

Thanks for new KDE build!

PS. your new ffmpeg package needs to include libx265 library:
# ldd /usr/lib64/libavcodec.so.57.107.100 | grep x265
libx265.so.130 => not found

Thanks.

Comment from Widya Walesa
Posted: November 22, 2017 at 10:39

Thanks for the update. I’m upgrading my system last night, and this is my report about KDE5 Wayland.

I’m still confuse with kwallet5 and wayland. I had to kill it and start it again with env flags QT_QPA_PLATFORM=xcb /usr/bin/kwalletd5 (/usr/bin/kwalletmanager5) before I can unlock my keys. So, I think kwallet5 does not support wayland, is it correct?

Other than that, is the systemsettings. It still makes plasma restarts when I’m opening it.

Comment from Gérard Monpontet
Posted: November 22, 2017 at 11:25

Yes on wayland version ‘system settings’ crash frequently plasma, but others soft make crashed plasma when exit.
i think plasma 5 isn’t really ready for plasma now 😉

Comment from alienbob
Posted: November 22, 2017 at 11:32

LOEdiver I had run into the same thing, after uploading the new ffmpeg to the repository. It was past 2 AM when I did that… too sleepy to notice I guess.
This needs to solved by statically linking libx265 but I ran into a linker error so I am still investigating.

Comment from Gérard Monpontet
Posted: November 22, 2017 at 14:39

Maybe the wayland version will work better with qt5-5.9.3 😉

I’ll try to compile that tonight:

http://download.qt.io/official_releases/qt/5.9/5.9.3/single/qt-everywhere-opensource-src-5.9.3.tar.xz.mirrorlist

Comment from Brian
Posted: November 22, 2017 at 19:39

Hi alienbob,

It seems kjots need a recompile in 14.2/latest as well
Thanks for the great work

Brian

Comment from Brian
Posted: November 22, 2017 at 19:45

Hi alienbob,

After full rsync and upgrade following the README commands, slackpkg is suggesting downgrades from 17.08.03 to 17.08.02 of the following packages in ktown repo for 14.2/latest :
– kaccounts-integration-17.08.2-x86_64-1alien.txz
– kaccounts-providers-17.08.2-x86_64-1alien.txz│
– ktp-accounts-kcm-17.08.2-x86_64-1alien.txz
– ktp-approver-17.08.2-x86_64-1alien.txz
– ktp-auth-handler-17.08.2-x86_64-1alien.txz
– ktp-call-ui-17.08.2-x86_64-1alien.txz
– ktp-common-internals-17.08.2-x86_64-1alien.txz
– ktp-contact-list-17.08.2-x86_64-1alien.txz
– ktp-contact-runner-17.08.2-x86_64-1alien.txz
– ktp-desktop-applets-17.08.2-x86_64-1alien.txz
– ktp-filetransfer-handler-17.08.2-x86_64-1alien.txz
– ktp-kded-module-17.08.2-x86_64-1alien.txz
– ktp-send-file-17.08.2-x86_64-1alien.txz
– ktp-text-ui-17.08.2-x86_64-1alien.txz
– signon-kwallet-extension-17.08.2-x86_64-1alien.txz

Brian

Comment from alienbob
Posted: November 22, 2017 at 20:25

Brian it seems I left the old KDE Telepathy packages in place. I will remove them from the repository.
About kjots, that will go on the TODO. Don’t hold your breath.

Comment from Eduardo
Posted: November 22, 2017 at 22:25

Thank you Eric! So far it works OK.

Comment from Gérard Monpontet
Posted: November 23, 2017 at 08:05

I have updated qt5, but, on wayland, i have the same issues, return on xorg 😉

Comment from Gérard Monpontet
Posted: November 23, 2017 at 11:03

I have omit, just for info, Eric, qt5-5.9.3, compile perfectly with your SlackBuild, just i have uninstalled the old version before, in case…… 😉

this new release work great on xorg and plasma5, for the moment.

Comment from Pete Christy
Posted: November 24, 2017 at 10:52

Hi Eric,
Again, many thanks for all your hard work!

FYI the system settings / kirigami bug mentioned here now appears in -current:

https://alien.slackbook.org/blog/october-updates-for-the-slackware-plasma5-desktop/

Marcelo was running 14.2, but both my -current machines have suffered the same bug following the latest update.

The “workaround” you suggested in that thread works fine.


Pete

Comment from Gérard Monpontet
Posted: November 26, 2017 at 11:57

Just for info ‘hplip’ compiled with qt5, put the hp-sysray in the right place, this make ‘sni-qt’ is definitely obsolete,
another little cosmetic enhancement, ‘xpdf’ just rebuild with qt5 installed, adopte le look de qt5 😉

Comment from Gérard Monpontet
Posted: November 26, 2017 at 12:06

sorry 😉
adopts the look of qt5

Comment from alienbob
Posted: November 26, 2017 at 14:41

I found out this week that xpdf had changed from the simple Xlib based version of the past, to a re-designed Qt based version. That is why I had to remove it from the XFCE Live ISO…

Comment from alienbob
Posted: November 26, 2017 at 14:46

About sni-qt, I don’t know of any Qt4 based applications left over, which want to create a systray notifier.
So indeed once Pat includes Plasma5 into Slackware, he won’t have to include sni-qt.

Comment from Gérard Monpontet
Posted: November 26, 2017 at 14:52

Just a question, Eric do you know when Pat is going to push plasma5 into current ?

thanks 😉

Comment from alienbob
Posted: November 26, 2017 at 15:23

The answer is of course: when he’s ready.

Comment from Gérard Monpontet
Posted: November 26, 2017 at 15:31

ok 😉

Comment from Gérard Monpontet
Posted: December 3, 2017 at 11:52

For info, i have build KDE Applications 17.12 RC, without problem 😉

Comment from Gérard Monpontet
Posted: December 4, 2017 at 13:17

Just suggestion 😉

directory /run/user/1000 is created with user group ‘root’, maybe is better it is create with user group ‘users’

Comment from alienbob
Posted: December 4, 2017 at 14:31

Well, other users should never have access to your runtime session directory, therefore it is safer to give root the group ownership instead.

Comment from Gérard Monpontet
Posted: December 4, 2017 at 15:01

When you log in as user2, /run user1 disappears

Comment from Gérard Monpontet
Posted: December 4, 2017 at 16:38

On opensuse the user group is users 😉

Comment from Eduardo
Posted: December 4, 2017 at 20:48

Hi Eric! I have somethingh which might be seen as a bug.

In System Settings > Applications > Default Applications > Web Browser > Open http and https URLS: when you select “in the following application”, Firefox is not listed as a browser, despite being installed. I think it should be listed there. Thanks again!

Comment from alienbob
Posted: December 4, 2017 at 21:32

Eduardo, indeed. This needs to be solved in the Slackware ‘mozilla-firefox’ package.
The fix on your local computer is easy:

$ diff  /usr/share/applications/mozilla-firefox.desktop{.orig,}
5c5
< Categories=Network;
---
> Categories=Network;WebBrowser;

Comment from Eduardo
Posted: December 5, 2017 at 14:37

Worked! Thank you Eric!

Comment from Eduardo
Posted: December 6, 2017 at 19:04

Hi Eric. After the Wed Dec 6 14:13:48 UTC 2017 update in -current I cannot use Plasma anymore. Among the updates is icu4c and I suspect that is the culprit.

Thanks,
Eduardo

Comment from alienbob
Posted: December 6, 2017 at 19:28

Hi Eduardo

Yes, isn’t it fun and exciting to be running Slackware-current 🙂

Comment from Gérard Monpontet
Posted: December 6, 2017 at 19:49

Yes, I’m recompiling qt5 at this time 😉

Comment from Eduardo
Posted: December 6, 2017 at 20:04

Yeah, heaps of fun 😀

Comment from Gérard Monpontet
Posted: December 6, 2017 at 22:24

Recompiled, that run 😉

Comment from Gérard Monpontet
Posted: December 6, 2017 at 22:39

kmail is broken also
rebuild kcalcore with new libical, solve it.

Comment from Gérard Monpontet
Posted: December 7, 2017 at 13:12

k3b recompiled with qt5 and webkit, work now 😉

Comment from alienbob
Posted: December 7, 2017 at 20:30

I am getting there (64bit -current Plasma5 works here) but in case you just want it to work *now*, you can follow Pat Volkerding’s suggestion to install the older icu4c package from Slackware 14.2 on top of the newer package: https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/today%27s-current-icu4c-upgrade-broke-ktown%27s-sddm-4175619108/page2.html#post5790157
You can then remove it later on if all is back to normal.

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